In this conversation Jeff Carreira speaks with author and former rockstar, Gary Lachman about his book Dark Star Rising: Magik and Power in the Age of Trump, and the reality of magic in the world today. The conversation explores how Gary’s post-modern attitudes have led to the revitalization of magic in the world, and includes discussion about the twentieth century magician Aleister Crowley, psychologist Carl Jung, the English philosopher Collin Wilson, and other pioneers of modern magic.